Jack Frimston

2025 might be the hardest time to generate new business

Inboxes are graveyards.  Everyones got something to sell. Cold calls turn into send me an email.

Meanwhile, pipeline anxiety is at an all-time high.

No sales? No business. No business? Well… you get it.

If you’re a B2B service business with a real solution, not just another “all-in-one AI platform to disrupt synergy,”

I help you get in front of the right people.
Then we turn those conversations into qualified meetings that land directly in your diary.

No growth hacks. No wishful thinking. Just honest, uncomfortable work that works.

What I ACTUALLY do:

- Book qualified meetings (without embarrassing your brand)

- Train sales teams to prospect like it’s 2025, not 2015

- Help people to make sales human again

Want to go deeper?

Book a slot: www.wehaveameeting.com

Buy the book: https://amzn.eu/d/7x9Kzwh

Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@wehaveameeting


Remember you will die.

Sales Consultant

As a Consultant for AP+, I help businesses in the furniture, homeware, and tech industries find the right 3PL, storage, and fulfilment solutions.

The news breaking rift between the Beckham family has got me thinking about the way most people approach enterprise selling......





No it hasn't

Not everything has to be turned into a business lesson on LinkedIn 

Remember you will die

Helping Your Business Generate Qualified Meetings | Author - Sales Is Therapy | Director of the UK's 2nd Best Sales Agency 📞☎️📱

Netflix got rejected by Blockbuster

Google got rejected by Yahoo

I got rejected by a girl every time I went clubbing at 18 because I looked like a depressed wedding magician. 

Rejection happens

Get over it

Remember you will die


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Sick of getting rejected and want to generate more meetings?

www.wehaveameeting.com

Everybody asks why sales leaders don't take cold calls...


They never ask why I'm speaking to the wrong John Smith

I got rejected by Steven Bartlett 

Rejection happens

Get over it

Remember you will die

Took my partner out for dinner last night

She asked why I'm so calm about losing deals

I said "Because I'm going to die one day and none of this actually matters"

She said "That's dark"

When you remember you're mortal

Rejection stops feeling personal

It's just part of the process

What she actually said was...

"Can you stop talking about sales for five fucking minutes"

Fair point

Remember you will die

I got rejected by Keir Starmer 

Rejection happens - Get over it

Shy kids don't get any sweets

Shoot your shot
Slide in the DMs
Make the phonecall 
Send the letter

Nothing happens from sitting still

On average a podcast guest says no 3 times before joining us

2 more to go Mr.Prime Minister

Remember you will die

Want to 100% guarantee you hit all your 2026 goals?

Get someone pregnant.

Preferably someone you know, like and trust.

The prefrontal cortex is not fully developed until:

Men: 24–27 years old
Women: 21–24 years old

Which means most decisions are driven by validation and pleasure.

You can feel successful but empty.

Once the brain is fully formed, the things that used to excite you stop working.

So people spiral into nihilism, numb themselves for 40 years, and call it a life.

When you have a child, your brain rewires itself around responsibility.

Your brain starts asking one question:

“What must I become so they are okay?”

It stops being about you.

The human brain evolved to prioritise responsibility, protection, and legacy.

This is not the only way.

But having children activates that system instantly.

So if you want to make £10k per month, have a baby.

Comment PREGNANT for my fertilisation flowchart

Remember you will die

Just remember that someone's sales strategy is wishing me happy birthday every year

And this year, they made a pigs ear of it...

I got rejected trying to sell a pen

Rejection happens

Remember you will die

Last year our podcast grew by 668% 

Which either means 2024 was bad or 2025 was huge

- Bigger numbers
- Bigger guests
- Bigger setup

So this year we've gone all in and we're happy to announce our new sponsor - Prospeo.io 

Everybody always asks us where we get our data from?

We use a variety but....

the results we've seen on recent campaigns from Prospeo have been incredible so we're very excited to announce this partnership.

To celebrate you can get you dream customers mobile number free - https://prospeo.io/wham

( They also have 98% more accuracy which is about 15% more than most data providers)

Remember you will die

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Today I turn 34, so here's 34 lessons about generating marketing qualified leads...




Yeah right

I'm still in bed

This is automated

You don't have to give lessons just cause it's your birthday

Remember you will die

Claude Cowork just KILLED manual prospecting

And I'm never picking up the phone again......




I've seen this ridiculous bro framework about 40 times now

You comment CLAUDE

A teenager in Bali DMs you and starts talking about making 10k a month and asking if you've listened to Modern Wisdom

Just remember

The people that made the most money during the gold rush were those selling the shovels 

People are scared about missing out with AI

But I promise you

If you could genuinely automate all your outreach, it be good and actually work

It wouldn't be teenagers selling it

It'd be Elon Musk

Everything will come full circle

AI will change the world

But don't be afraid to be human in a world full of automation

Pick up the phone

Remember you will die


Ps. Please comment CLAUDE so I go viral

Four years ago I sat in this booth cold calling every single day 

I'd arrive at 8.30am
Start dialling at 9am
Mobile phone
Office numbers 
Gatekeepers

The goal?

To book 2 appointments a day

I had to find clients for We Have a Meeting 

No LinkedIn presence
No automation
No data sets
No dialler 

Just picking up the phone and trying to find someone who had the problems I solved


After 4 years we're no longer sat in phone booths but the fundamentals remain the same

Pick Up The Phone
Ring People You Might Be Able To Help
Start A Conversation 

2026 is the year where proactive salespeople will win

Remember you will die

34 People tagged me in Sara Blakely post with this image

As much as I tried to remind people every day that they'll die

Most people walk around like Non Playable Characters

Like they have forever

Like there's no urgency

They hold grudges, they put things off and next thing you know they're in their fifties and their commitments stack up so high they convince themselves it's too late 

THE INTERNET HAS EVERYTHING YOU EVER WANTED TO LEARN

- Want to open a coffee shop at 19? 
- Become a YouTuber at 42? 
- Become a professional skateboarder 59?

There are no rules you can literally just do things

Big deal you get in debt

You could be 86 sat in 100k worth of debt and die the next day but at least you'd say

"Woah my life was sick"

Please please please remember

Remember you will die

And just like that I have a two year old...

There were points many years ago I thought I'd never have a family

I spent so much time and energy worrying and thinking about it 

And before you know it you've got a 2 year old running around the kitchen trying to kick you

Like most worries - they never actually happen...

So it's cool doing 10k months like all your favourite linkedin gurus

But being a parent tops it all

Happy birthday to the ginger toddler 

Remember you will die

I sat the worst call of my career last year

I didn't know anything about the prospect before I jumped on the call

It'd been a ridiculous morning and I'd jumped in unprepared 

I thought I could wing it but when they asked

"What do we do?"

I had no answer. I didn't try and blag it. I just admitted I hadn't had a chance to look.

The prospect was angry. 

They actually bollocked me and then hung up in anger.

I felt like an idiot 

I think Linkedin can sometimes be a showreel of excellence yet everyone that works in sales has to eat glass

Bad calls
Rejection
No's

It happens

Obviously there are many lessons you can take from this...

Prepare
Do research
Look at their website for at least a minute

But actually it's how you bounce back

I didn't spiral

I made a mistake

I felt silly for a minute and then remembered life goes on

One day I'll be dead and I won't be thinking about this guy on my deathbed

Ps. Always know what kind of business your prospect has

Remember you will die

I received a cold call last month that started like this...

This is 100% true

"I'm calling from Three about your phone upgrade"

I was currently driving to the hospital as my partner was in labour

I told the caller

"My partners in labour - I'm about to have a baby I can't talk right now"

The seller paused

"Your baby is going to love these cheap deals"

And guess what - he did

Remember you will die

4 Years Ago I stood at Bridgewater hall in Manchester and was told I couldn't come in because I didn't have a ticket

10 minutes later I was watching my partner graduate

How?

Your life depends on one skill...

Remember you will die

The Skill That Changes Everything By Jack Frimston It was the winter of 2021 and I was one month into dating my now partner, Zoe. She was graduating f

Open article: Why your life depends on this skill... by Jack Frimston • 4 min read

SDR: “Can I get a dialler system to make more cold calls?”

Boss: “We don’t have the budget”

SDR: “Can I invest in Prospeo.io and Nooks to get better contact rates"

Boss: “We don’t have the budget”

SDR: "One of our current clients is coming up to renewal and we don't think they'll continue..."

Boss: “Here’s £10,000, organise a box to see Harry Styles at Wembley and send his wife a fruit bowl”

Remember you will die

THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH MASS AI PERSONALITION 

Of course it can scan my profile and fill in the company name

The issue is... There's four companies

So you choose the most recent... which is a book

Now let's be honest, even a day 1 SDR would have done better research 

So of course it will save you time

My genuine thought on mass AI personalisations outreach is this

It can damage your brand more than it can help you generate leads

Be human
Pick up the phone

Remember you will die

B2B SEO & Web Design For Revenue Not Vanity | DM To Discuss | Host @ Business Growth Show (Top 10 B2B Marketing Podcast, Cognism)

Your website struggling to drive a steady flow of qualified demos/leads?
Tired of losing leads to competitors ranking higher on Google/AI?
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0-$6.7M ARR under 2yrs. Fully boostrapped. Adam Robinson leaked his full SaaS growth framework in 34mins. Now its yours:

Adam and I don’t do fluff.

You’re about to learn: 

- The secrets to building epic products
- RB2B weird insane strategy for growth 
- Where Adam took inspiration from
- The framework so you can copy it
- How he’s diversifying to hit 10M ARR+ 

SaaS marketers and founders, hit 2026 with a bang.

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Founder @ Breaking B2B | B2B SEO For Revenue Not Vanity | SaaS & B2B Teams Hire Us To Scale Organic Pipeline From Google & AI Search | DM To Discuss | Host @ Breaking B2B (Top 2.5% B2B Marketing Podcast)

Fibbler got recommended by AI search just weeks after we started SEO/AEO. Now Adam has prospects mentioning it on demo calls. Here’s how we did it:

SEO doesn’t have to take 12 months.

There's money to be made in 90 days.  

Competitor content is one of many winner for quick AI and organic search impact, sign-ups and demos.

This is one of the first places we start on a program. 

These terms are low difficulty and can rank super fast.

List out the competitors your customers often evaluate, or move over to you from.

Then look at terms like:

[competitor] alternatives
[competitor] reviews
[competitor] pricing
[competitor 1] vs [competitor 2] vs [you]

Right now, listicle based articles rank exceptionally well on google and AI search.

Position your solution as the top choice (backed by customer research), showing your product in action + social proof along with where you're a strong/poor fit. 

Then a fair comparison of other vendors.

Not only can you get fast bottom funnel visibility.

You can control the narrative in LLMs and Google.

And drive pipeline from high intent prospects frustrated with their current vendor or evaluating options.

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RB2B nearly hit $7M ARR. We run their SEO/AEO engine at Breaking B2B. Next up $10M ARR. Here's our January battle-plan for Adam Robinson SaaS:

HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.

The mission? Drive high intent sign-ups as quick as humanly possible from google organic and AI searches.

This month we've found more competitor-focused pricing page opportunities with healthy search volume. 

For example, “Instantly pricing” generates 3,000+ monthly high-intent searches, showing prospects actively evaluating costs and purchase options. Third-party pricing pages (in addition to Instantly’s own site) are already capturing a meaningful share of this traffic, which signals clear opportunity to compete and drive inbound with a well-optimized pricing page.

And a bunch of other pricing-related pages with consistent search demand, strong buyer intent. Solid for organic acquisition.

We’re crafting a product listicle for “Cognism alternatives.” This keyword attracts solid monthly traffic and has low difficulty, with strong opportunity to rank and capture users who are in the consideration stage and actively comparing software.

NET NEW CONTENT.

pricing articles:
- Instantly pricing (3.1k searches/mo)
- Cognism pricing (1.2k/mo)
- Clearbit pricing (1k/mo)
- Uplead pricing (500/mo)
- Leadinfo pricing (400/mo)

these pages review the software pricing, share user feedback, breakdown of costs and share where RB2B is differentiated and why customers choose them. plus they often rank well within 90 days.

alternative listicle:
- Cognism alternatives (400/mo)

aq quick summary and intro, why listen to us, what is cognism, why look into alternatives (based on what prospects say e.g. on G2), list of 12 alternatives, RB2B at #1 with why customers choose them, show product in action, pricing and feature info, where they are good + poor fit then list of 11 other options below with fair summary + conclusion and FAQs.

listicle and alternative/competitor content on your own site is solid for being cited and recommend in AI search and enables you to control the narrative with dream clients on ChatGPT and google ai overviews.

EARN BACKLINKS (DA50+).

- free b2b lead generation software
- lusha vs zoominfo
- zoominfo vs uplead

EXTERNAL LISTICLE PLACEMENTS.

- best data enrichment tools x 3 
top 3 placements in 3 niche relevant external listicle articles.

solid to ramp AI search visibility and mentions.
plus can get direct inbound.
and the backlink.

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Wanna see if we can scale demos quick as 90 days for your B2B/SaaS?

Visit the Breaking B2B site to check our results, pricing and grab a call.

Watch my 34-minute SEO/AEO breakdown video for RB2B below 👇

Proposify had good SEO before partnering with Breaking B2B. We crafted a strategy and execution taking demos, AI and organic visibility to the next level 👇 

#1 for "quoting software" in the USA - Top organic position for this money keyword, appearing above competitors in standard results and AI Overview.

#1 for "proposal software" in the USA - Top organic position for another critical solution keyword.

68% more clicks from competitor pages (prospects comparing vendors or looking to switch).

AI search visitors up by 91%
Engaged sessions up by 20%

Longer term conversions are stable, starting to see big spikes in organic demo requests on shorter timelines:

Last 1 weeks demos vs previous period: +115%.
Last 2 weeks demos vs previous period: +72%.

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Cheers to Kyle Racki and Jennifer Faulkner for the review.

See our results, pricing and book a call: https://lnkd.in/eT_F8zZB

You're being lied to about SEO & AEO
(The myth: SEO traffic is down 25%+)
Juicy research hot off the press.
Per similarweb and graphite 👇 

You've probably seen the headlines claiming organic traffic has dropped anywhere from 25% to 60%.

These numbers are based on flawed research methods, mostly surveys and often small sample sizes of 10-20 websites.

The problem with surveys is that human memory is unreliable, and people who respond to surveys about AI adoption tend to be early adopters who use LLMs more than average.

So the data gets skewed.

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Here's what the actual numbers show

Graphite partnered with Similarweb to analyze over 40,000 of the largest sites in the US.

Here's what the analysis revealed...

SEO traffic is down only 2.5% year over year, not 25%.

That's an overestimation by 1,000% in a lot of the studies floating around
And this aligns with what Google themselves said in August 2025, that overall organic click volume has been "relatively stable year-over-year".

Visits to search engines actually increased in 2025.

Traffic to search engines went up 6.9% from 2019 to 2020

Decreased slightly in 2022 by about 1.5%

And has been relatively flat since 2023

In fact, traffic increased slightly in 2025 to both Google at plus 0.8% and search engines as a whole at plus 0.4%

Visitors to Google grew by 1.35% comparing Q4 2025 versus Q4 2024

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Google is still a demand capture beast

Per earlier research from Datos and Sparktoro, Google processes over 14 billion searches every day.

ChatGPT handles about 37.5 million search-like prompts daily

That means Google receives 373 times more searches than ChatGPT

Even if you combined the daily prompts across ChatGPT, Perplexity, Claude, Copilot, and Gemini, the total would still be under 2% of the search market
Google maintains a 93.57% market share of search.

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Dropping the report along with my 90 days to revenue SEO/AEO playbook & video course below 👇

Breaking B2B was invisible on AI search 120 days ago. Now we’re often top. Stop giving SaaS competitors a free lunch on ChatGPT & Google. Here’s the fix:

QUICK WINS.

Start where you win already (commercial bottom funnel pages typically listicle articles, landing pages, comparison pages, competitor content etc) update these, making them best in class to blow the competition out the water at every angle.

BUILD THE MOAT.

Build a moat like no other on your site. (cover all pages across industries, product, features, pricing, documentation, competitors, use cases etc. each covering all ICPs jobs to be done, Qs etc).

Craft and improve with add unique stats, data, research, social proof and date updates on blog articles.

AEO/SEO CHEATCODE.

The cheat code for LLMs (listicles) build all relevant “best X software/platform/tools” listicle article on your own site.

Then outreach or leverage partners to get your brand featured on well ranking niche relevant  external site listicles in top 3 placements.

This was a huge part of how we got Breaking B2B mentioned regularly in AI searches (and classic google organic rankings for pipeline driving keywords).

LEVERAGE PAST MEDIA.

Leverage past media such as your founders appearances on podcasts, interviews, press and more. Head to - ahrefs > backlinks on media/pages that only point to an execs linkedin profile, ask the author of the page for a brand mention and backlink.

CONTROL THE NARRATIVE.

Ecosystem marketing FTW. Based on where you have resource. Control the narrative where folks search around your niche and compare options.

Redddit, YouTube and beyond.

Right now, SEO/youtube/linkedin is a killer trio working together to drive booked calls for us at Breaking B2B.

SPEED BEATS GIANTS.

Enterprise orgs move slow, they have layers of approvals and a lot of red tape.

This is your advantage as a fast moving mid or startup company.

Publishing and doing above at speed can steal market share over time, especially in undeserved niches.

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I’m 35 today.

So here’s a list you didn’t ask for: 

1. Family > all

2. Don’t wait until new year to start something

3. Hard work still goes a long way

4. Putting some pressure on isn’t always bad

5. Take time out to enjoy w/ fam and friends

6. Most emails that say urgent aren’t

7. Don’t need to start emails w/ hope you're well

8. Transparency wins

9. A website is your best or worst salesperson

10. Many companies still underestimate SEO/AEO

11. Bootstrapping a co. is tough but fun

12. Daily habits & activities are a winner for biz

13. Podcasts while driving = free university

14. Build something on the side and get paid 

15. Learn from those who’ve actually done it

16. Learn to sell, then learn to market

17. Fitness is medicine for the mind

18. I’m not for everyone

19. Some will, some won’t, so what, next.

20. Outbound is alive

21. SEO died in 1973. JK it's alive in b2b.

22. Everyone talks a good game on LinkedIn

23. Personal brand is great but not everything

24. Don’t rely on one marketing channel

25. Experimentation FTW in marketing

26. Have marketing channels you own and rent

27. Hire people smarter than you 

28. Don’t be tight 

29. Likes and shares don’t pay bills

30. It ain’t sold until cash hits the bank

31. Stay humble 

32. Lists are dead

33. God is good

34. Cheers 🍺

35. Your B2B/SaaS struggling to drive pipeline from SEO & AI search? I hear Breaking B2B are decent.

I just told a $1M ARR SaaS founder not to invest in SEO yet.

He was ready to spend $20k with us and already trusted us as had been following the Breaking B2B newsletter for years. 

Weirdly on paper their solution looked great for SEO & AI search.

Prospects were searching for their solution.

There is active demand to capture with search.

Quick wins from competitor focused content that could drive demos as fast as 90 days.

This issue?

Up to now they’d grown from outbound sales and proven that model works for their $60k+ ACV.

They’d never done SEO before.

And didn’t have the runway to keep SEO running with us for 6 months plus.

So I recommended they kept ramping the outbound model until they have runway to make SEO a longer term bet with us 

Rather than a couple months and chasing us for results and everyone getting frustrated.

And we’ll likely chat again in a few months when the timing makes sense.

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AEO “experts”: Chunk up your content
Leader at Google: Don’t do it mate. 

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From Googles Danny Sullivan last week:

“One of the things I keep seeing over and over in some of the advice and guidance and people are trying to figure out what do we do with the LLMs or whatever, is that turn your content into bite-sized chunks, because LLMs like things that are really bite size, right?
So we don't want you to do that. I was talking to some engineers about that. We don't want you to do that. We really don't. We don't want people to have to be crafting anything for Search specifically. That's never been where we've been at and we still continue to be that way. We really don't want you to think you need to be doing that or produce two versions of your content, one for the LLM and one for the net.”

“…So you've gone through all this effort. You've made all these things that you did specifically for a ranking system, not for a human, being because you were trying to be more successful in the ranking system, not staying focused on the human being. And then the systems improve, probably the way the systems always try to improve, to reward content written for humans. All that stuff that you did to please this LLM system that may or may not have worked, may not carry through for the long term.”

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I even got sucked into it when AI search first started rolling out. 

Thinking putting content into bitesize sections and over optimising for AI agents to read easily was the play.

Then remembered most of our B2B/SaaS clients are selling complex products with long sales cycles to multiple stakeholders.

Which is why we place huge emphasis on researching dream clients, their struggling moments, jobs to be done, motivations, competitors they evaluate, why they choose you, differentiators in the market place and beyond.

To not just rank and be mentioned & cited in Google organic and AI searches but resonate with target buyers. 

If you don’t resonate you won’t convert.

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Gurus love screaming SEOs dead and AEOs a brand new playbook. It’s not. Here’s 10 steps to drive demos in 90 days (share with your CMO):

1. Nail your MONEY keywords.

Map out every way a dream client could search for your solution when ready to speak to sales now.

At a high level in SaaS that’s:

“best X software/tools/platform”
“X for industry”
“competitor alternatives/pricing/reviews”
“competitor a vs competitor b (vs you)”

And a variety of others.

Ignore the top funnel traffic trap.

Prioritise lower search volume and low difficulty at the bottom of the sales funnel.

This is gonna rank and drive leads fast when done right.

We have ranked competitor fast as 4 days top of Google and AI search. 

2. Build & upgrade your money pages. 

Search your money keywords on Google & LLMs and see what kind of content shows up or gets cited.

Is it a listicle article, landing page, jobs to be done article, or something else.

See if you have pages ranking page 1 but not top for a quick win with a refresh.

3. Blow ‘em out the water. 

Once you’ve researched what top-ranking pages are doing, figure out how to blow them out of the water. 

Leverage customer research, sales call Qs, plenty of social proof and feature ypur product as the painkiller and solution.

LLMs love fresh content and unique research. Keep your commercial, money pages up to date.

4. Most technical SEO is BS.

(Until you get to having 1000s of pages).

Sort any massive technical issues, but don’t obsess over technical SEO. Get your focus keyword in URL, meta data, H1 and sort some internal links. Sort structured data. Not a tonne more needed. 

And you of course want quick loading times.

5. Brand mentions and links at $0 FTW.

Build quality backlinks & brand mentions for $0. 

Get featured in podcasts and articles, and make sure they link back to your website. 

Earn/trade top 3 placements & brand mentions from “Best X software” listicles for your category.

This gives you an insane boost in LLMs and the backlink helps classic organic search.

6. Speed is your advantage.

Quality matters, but speed is a competitive advantage. This is your superpower over the slow moving giants in your niche. 

7. Craft pages to convert. 

Design and UX backed by customer researched copy to resonate with ICPs makes a big difference. 

8. Great SEO is knowing good b2b marketing.

Leverage sales calls, CS calls, and customer research to make your content as relevant as possible to dream clients jobs to be done.

9. Keep improving. 

Publish fast, and revisit your content 3 months later to make improvements. 

10. B2B is an ecosystem.

Keep improving all your marketing efforts: YouTube, LinkedIn, Reddit etc. all improvements in brand awareness will lead to more successful SEO. Ecosystem thinking is the b2b winner. 

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We run this playbook for 35+ SaaS client right now at Breaking B2B.

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I GRILLED Adam Robinson on how he bootstrapped RB2B from 0-$6.7M in 2yrs with 3 FTEs. Here's my 7 biggest takeaways:

1. Use a proven concept and find the gap.

RB2B did not start from a blank page. Retention started as a feature inside another company. Nobody wanted the full product. Everybody wanted the feature. That feature became the company. The same thing happened again. While selling into the Shopify space Adam identified there was no person level website visitor identity for B2B. This was the gap to hit. We did the same  at Breaking B2B after constantly hearing B2B/SaaS marketers and founders get frustrated with vanity metrics and lack of pipeline from SEO.

2. Create for your market.

Adam posted content to reach eCom stores. About 25 percent of his posts were about his SaaS journey. Those posts got 10X better engagement. So the content changed. Only B2B SaaS. The engagement stayed high. The audience was clear. That audience needed a product.

3. Speak to prospects before building.

There were Zoom calls. A big waitlist. A lot of discovery before launch. The idea was simple. B2B needs person level visitor identity. Some people hated it. Some people said it was crazy. Some people said it was transformational.

4. Prove people will pay for it.

V1 of RB2B was super basic. People got a spreadsheet every day with personal emails of B2B visitors. That did not work. Then business emails. Slightly better. People still paid. If people pay for something basic, it's a clear signal to keep pushing forwards.

5. Change the experience, not the data.

The same data was sent in a new way. First, a fake Slack profile showing real people with headshots and LinkedIn URLs as they visit your site. People had never seen anything like it. It was a hit. Same information. New delivery.

6. Start on a no-brainer channel.

LinkedIn was already working for engagement with ICP and growing fast. That leverage made it worth building the product. An okay product plus huge awareness becomes a good business.

7. Say the same thing over and over.

Be known for something. In Adams case, Bootstrapped. Build in public. Radical transparency. Say the same few ideas in many ways. In my case, SaaS SEO and building in public. This is how RB2B got to $6.7M ARR in under two years.

PS. watch our full 34-minute masterclass: https://lnkd.in/eHdqi3uD

#1 on AI and organic search in 4 days for MONEY keywords. SEO/AEO doesn't need to take 12 months to drive pipeline & revenue:

First off, yes some super competitive terms can take 6-12 months.

But there's plenty of ways to drive inbounds 90 days from publishing content for your B2B/SaaS.

It all starts with customer research.

Knowing:

- crisp and expensive problems of your icp
- your icps motivations & jobs to be done
- what they hate most about your sector
- why they choose you over others
- why/when they move over to you
- competitors they evaluate
- your differentiators 

Then crafting an SEO/AEO strategy focused on dream clients ready to speak to sales.

AKA. 

Looking for your specific solution, comparing vendors, looking to move form the incumbent, needing an integration or struggling with a specific problem you solve.

- competitor content
- integration for X pages
- alternatives/pricing/reviews
- best software for [niche] listicles
- how to [job to be done] with your product

I break this down in my 90 days to revenue SEO/AEO playbook & free video course: https://lnkd.in/et7yce7s

$5.34 = avg B2B Google ads CPC (per dreamdata research). SaaS CAC is up 60% last 5yrs. Outbound response rates are getting lower and lower...so what's the answer for sustainable growth?

THE PROBLEM W/ RELYING ON ADS & OUTBOUND

- Every month your CAC payback period extends
- You're essentially renting traffic instead of owning it
- When your next funding round gets delayed or doesn't happen, paid growth becomes unsustainable
- It’s essentially a ticking time bomb

SHOULD YOUR SAAS CONSIDER SEO/AEO?

- Build assets that generate pipeline and mindshare month after month without the rising ads costs
- Unlike ads, your organic rankings and AI visibility can compound and get stronger over time
- You're not competing in expensive bidding wars with better-funded competitors
- Creates a sustainable foundation that doesn't disappear when budgets get tight
- Your buyers aren't stupid: they place trust in organic results 
- Builds brand and mindshare

TAP INTO THE 5% OF MARKET READY TO BUY

- While 95% of your market isn't ready to purchase, around 5% is actively searching for solutions right now
- These prospects are typing your competitors' names looking for alternatives
- They're searching for industry-specific solutions in your exact niche
- They're comparing vendors and ready to book demos - if they can find you first

GROW BRAND SHARE OF VOICE

- When prospects consistently see you at the top of AI & search results, it helps position you as the category leader
- This brand authority creates a multiplier effect across everything you do
Helps you stay top of mind
- Increases brand recall
- Results in higher conversions across all your other marketing channels
- People are more likely to click your ads when they recognize your brand from organic search
- Sales cycles shorten because prospects already trust you before the first sales call
- Most importantly for founders/mktg & rev leaders - this sustainable organic growth makes raising funding easier when investors see you're not dependent on paid acquisition

BUT DOESN'T SEO TAKE 12 MONTHS MIN?

- With the right strategy, many of our clients at Breaking B2B see qualified leads within 90 days of publishing content
- We've helped clients rank clients top of AI and organic search fast as 30 days for MONEY keywords
- Every month you wait is a month your competitors eat your lunch

PS. grab my 90 days to revenue SEO playbook and video course: https://lnkd.in/et7yce7s

A SaaS marketing leader asked me how long it takes to get results with SEO. Here’s my exact reply (and I didn't say "it depends): 

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There's massive bottlenecks to SEO, and they can be on the agency side or the contractor side, and they can also be on the client side.

And the crux of good SEO, at least in my opinion, is working out, starting with a strategy like in your case, what you've told me about the problems you solve, that could be a good in.

Let's work out what a target client actually searches for when they need your solution, rather than messing around with the 95% that aren't in buying mode.

Let's focus on those 5% that are actively searching for a solution like yours, and what are they specifically looking for.

And it might be that there's not tons of volume, but they're low-volume searches, but they're very specific, and they're likely to attract decent leads.

So we want to start there. Now, I don't know how competitive waitlist-based terms would be. I know for a fact anything [redacted their industry type] is hard, but the more specific the better.

So the more we can narrow down to your niche, the better. What can also work well, like if you're trying to rank for [industry + offer] terms, you're looking like six months plus.

And specific listicles around your core niche and offers.

What will rank the fastest is going after competitors. So I don't know, like [competitor] alternatives 

Or [competitor] reviews, pricing or similar.

Like those are the quickest possible. Those can rank. We often see those ranked like top three organic within 30 days of publishing.

And those can drive demos because if you're telling me things like people are moving away from some of these because of the poor customer success, then why don't we create a piece of an article that evaluates the top 10 [competitor] alternatives.

Positions you as number one and doubles down on customer success and then leverages the G2 reviews on [competitor] for their listing.

So that kind of stuff can rank like 30 to 90 days from publishing and can drive demos.

Also gets solid visibility for your brand in AI search.

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Try my free 90 days to revenue SEO video course & playbook below 👇

1st February 2024, 9PM. I'm heads down at my PC listening to D&B making a list of marketing leaders to cold call the next morning. This was the start of Breaking B2B: 

PC.
List.
Dialler.
Pen and paper.

Ripping 1-200 dials before lunch.

Sweating away with a tonne of rejection.

Getting maybe 1 appt and a couple follow ups and sign-ups for the Breaking B2B newsletter most days.

Leading with the problem we solve for SaaS around competitors outranking on Google/AI search when dream clients are hunting for your solution. Stealing mindshare, traffic and inbounds.

This is how we got our first couple clients.

Meanwhile I was...

Positing daily on LI.
Building partnerships.
Cranking our SEO engine.
Starting to take YouTube seriously.

Steadily getting clients.

Me and a team of trusted contractors.

Cold calling thankfully ended as year 2 started.

We ramped up inbound and demand efforts with LinkedIn ads.

Partnered with some niche industry founders to build their SEO/AEO in public.  

Now nearly all our sales calls mention a mix of:

LinkedIn.
SEO/AI search.
Seeing others share our results.
Watching our YouTube breakdowns.

Big focus this year is repeatable systems.

Going at least 5% above and beyond for every client, every week.

Striving to be at the top of our game for SaaS SEO/AEO.

Meeting more clients in person.

Still being the weirdest guy & memorable brand in our niche.

And helping team members hit their biz and personal goals.

Next rev milestone is $300k MRR (125k to go).

Cheers to all who’ve been involved so far. 

Onwards!

They followed the Breaking B2B newsletter for 3yrs before booking a call.

Prospects buy on their timeline, not ours.

We can only educate, entertain and keep top of mind for when timing is right :)

graphical user interface, text, application

I’ve learnt most things the hard way.

Tried to sell websites, SEO, ads, support to anyone and everyone.

Was tough AF.

Eventually stumbled on SEO for B2B/SaaS

Laser focused on that.

Got easier.

Started my podcast interviewing everyone and anyone.

Entrepreneurs, founders, marketers, sales leaders and more.

Learnt a tonne.

But never drove any business.

Tightened to interview B2B/SaaS marketing leaders and foudners

Solo episodes specifically on SEO/AEO & SaaS marketing.

Started driving inbounds and business.

There’s a lesson there somewhere.

This is a SEO/AEO killer of pipeline.

The top funnel traffic trap.

Going after massively searched informational questions.

The issue?

Your dream clients aren't gonna be looking for this when ready to speak to sales.

Instead...

You're way better off working our what your ICP search on Google and AI search when:

- needing your solution now
- comparing different vendors
- looking to move from a provider
- having the crisp problem you solve

and starting with those 5% in market.

often this have less volume, can rank faster and drive pipeline fast as 90 days with the right strategy.

PS. watch full 5yrs of SaaS SEO knowledge in 14min video: https://lnkd.in/ec3b9QnG

Ahrefs reviewed 17 MILLION citations….fresh content increases your AI visibility. Here’s exactly what this means for your SaaS:

First a quick summary of Ahrefs research…

- Fresh content ranks higher for time-sensitive queries.

- Fresh content gets higher click-through rates on Google organic.

- Fresh content prevents ranking decay.

- AI-cited content is 25.7% fresher than organic Google results.

- ChatGPT is citing URLs that are 393-458 days newer than organic Google results.

- Google AI Overviews behave most like traditional search, citing content slightly older than ChatGPT.

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So what to prioritise for your SaaS?

Start with pages most likely to drive demos, signups and revenue.

Listicle articles are a solid start.

Think:

“Best [niche] software of 2025”
“Best [competitor] alternatives of 2025”
Etc.

Prioritise the ones already ranking okay on Google and being mentioned on AI search.

Get your titles updated for 2026.

Add the latest published date.

If your reviewing software refresh all features, reviews, pros, cons, pricing etc to be up to date.

When you place your software #1 grab real differentiators from sales call transcripts, review sites and more.

Get visuals up to date, add client review YouTube videos of why they switched to you.

Add FAQs from real sales and CS convos.  

Review top ranking pages for money keywords and prompts and look to blow them out the water from every angle.

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Cheers for Ahrefs for the solid research.

PS. grab my free 90 days to revenue SEO/AEO playbook & video course below 👇

ChatGPT are rolling out ads. Here’s what to plan for as a SaaS marketer or founder:

Timeline.

Ads aren't live yet. They announced plans to begin internal testing ads for Free and Go users in the US. Plus, Pro, Business, Enterprise, and Edu accounts will not have ads.

Fineprint.

Ads will not influence the answers ChatGPT gives you. ChatGPT’s responses are based on what is most helpful to you. Ads will be separate and clearly labeled.

How will they look?

Ads will be clearly labeled and shown separately from ChatGPT’s responses, so it’s always clear what’s an ad and what’s an answer.

OpenAI 

User control.

Users can control their ads experience and decide whether they'd like ads personalized so they'll be more relevant.

(above taken from OpenAI recent article)

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My 2 cents...

History shows us most platforms push more and more ads and pay to play as time goes on.

But AI search is still early…

Controlling the narrative and getting your brand mentioned consistently for high sales intent dream clients needing your solution in non sponsored AI searches is key.

And why not get two bites at the cherry with paid and non paid results just like many do in google.

The good news is a lot of best practises for pipeline focused SEO help you nail AI visibility

I’ll be testing them for sure when they roll out for Breaking B2B.

PS. grab my 90 days to revenue SEO/AEO playbook & video below 👇

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