Neal O'Grady 🍉

Demand Curve

Demand Curve (YC S19) creates courses, content, and events to teach founders and marketers how to grow companies. Our weekly newsletter goes out to over 97,000 founders and marketers.

Co-Founder

GrowthPair

We've partnered up to help startups hire top-tier growth talent that fits into their budget.

Advisor

Bell Curve

Bell Curve is a paid marketing agency explicitly built for startups. 

We've worked with companies like Invoice2Go, Pilot, Segment, Microsoft, Framer, Perfect Keto, Feedly, Stacker, Techcrunch, 1build, and Ancestry.

UNIGNORABLE

People wanna buy from people—not faceless brands. Un-ignorable is a 4-week group challenge designed to help you build an audience of future buyers.

Founder + Instructor

Segment

Demand Curve and Segment had a deep partnership. We collaborated on projects where our intersection of growth and tracking expertise can help companies grow revenue.

Growth Advisor

Webflow, Inc.

- Ideated blog post topics on topics most relevant and interesting to web designers 
- Produced high-quality blog posts each week that were engaging, educational, and got people excited about web design and Webflow 
- Sourced images and supplementary material and references - Work with the founders, CMO, designer, and editor

Copywriter/Content Marketer

Lighthouse Labs

The job of a TA at a early-stage web development bootcamp was 3 main things:

1. Developing curriculum.
2. Helping students with their coding challenges.
3. Providing emotional support to extremely stressed students wondering if they've made a horrible decision dropping $10k on a career change.

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I'm 34 years old. I've never had a full-time job.

Not once.

No, I did not grow up rich without needing to.

My dad passed when I was 13, my mom made $26,000 CAD, and he left her with an invalid life insurance policy. He had changed it to void unless he was 65 years old or older

He did that 2 days before local laws changed where your spouse needed to approve life insurance policy changes. 

He also left her with tons of debt on credit cards she didn't know about.

So she was forced to file for bankruptcy.

We were real poor.

I managed to go to university only because she moved to Vancouver with me.

And I paid for it by aggressively applying for scholarships. 75% of it was covered.

Yet, I've never used that degree.

Since then I've:

- Taught myself programming
- Worked as a freelance developer
- Worked as a freelance copywriter
- Lived out of a backpack for 3.5 years as a digital nomad
- Started two 7-figure revenue businesses in the marketing industry

At no point was I hungry, broke, or homeless.

People think that forging your own path is risky.

What I think is risky is taking out a mortgage based on a full-time job that can be taken away from you at any moment

As a freelancer, you have numerous income streams—losing one isn't existential.

As a business owner, your job can't be taken from you. You make more if you find a way to provide more value to people at scale.

This is why I've dedicated my life to helping people start, build, and grow companies. 

My ads agency, Bell Curve (www.bellcurve.com), helps startups grow through ads—the most scalable channel there is.

Demand Curve (www.demandcurve.com) teaches founders and marketers to grow their companies and passion projects. We were accepted into Y Combinator's summer of 2019 batch.

My goal is to make entrepreneurship easier and more approachable. Because we all benefit when we each build the future we want.

Demand Curve (YC S19) creates courses, content, and events to teach founders and marketers how to grow companies. Our weekly newsletter goes out to over 60,000 founders and marketers.

Helping brands get rankings and revenue from Google, LLMs, AI Overviews | CEO of Contact.so | Mentions.so | Kleo.so

There’s a rumour that we’re the world’s most controversial SEO Agency. But I’d just describe us as innovators. 

We stay on the cutting edge of SEO to help clients get traffic from Google and LLMs that turns into revenue. That doesn't go over well with the dinosaurs who are stuck in the past and too lazy to adapt. 

Our product is simple: work with us and we will make you more money than what you spend with us. 

☎️GETTING IN TOUCH IS EASY:
📞 Schedule a 30-minute free demo with me here: https://contactstudios.co/book-a-call?utm_campaign=Rob%20Hoffman&utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=social 
(Zero pressure, and if you need to reschedule, go right ahead.)

Rob@contactstudios.com 

Contact Co-Founder & CEO

Rob Hoffman

Here’s a crazy stat for you:

AI gets 40% of its answers from Reddit.

Even crazier, in some cases (like Google’s AI Overviews), Quora actually beats Reddit.

(Data found in recent Semrush studies)

This clearly shows that LLMs value authentic, conversational, community-generated content.

So if you’re wondering:

“Why doesn’t AI mention my brand as the best {thing}?”

It’s probably because nobody is saying that in the places LLMs get answers from, especially Reddit.

You should fix that.

1. Build presence in relevant subreddits
2. Contribute value (guides, answers, AMAs)
3. Encourage customers to share experiences

Build your brand on Reddit, not just LinkedIn.

I know I am.

Companies: "Content is king"

But then:

- 1 marketer overseeing all channels
- Interns running their social platforms
- $10K/mo is too expensive for content
- Despite spending 6-figures on paid ads

Drop the performance marketing mindset where content needs to have a clear and instant ROI.

By properly investing in content, you'll attract an audience that will eventually buy from you.

Or you can carry on:

- Not building your brand
- Not growing your audience
- Not increasing inbound leads
- Not getting ahead of competitors

Most companies regret not properly investing resources into content sooner.

Don't let that be you.

How I rank businesses inside LLMs:

AI platforms handle millions of daily queries, Google now shows AI summaries on 1 in 5 searches, Google is making AI Mode the default.

This isn't just another SEO hype.

But successful AI SEO follows 7 key steps that most people completely miss.

Here’s my AI SEO playbook:

Step 1: Map your customer questions

Write down every question from your sales calls. Those same questions are being asked in ChatGPT right now.

But don't stop there. Map the follow-up questions too. LLMs love comprehensive answers.

Step 2: Create answer-focused pages

Build pages that directly answer those questions. Skip the fluff and get straight to solutions.

Step 3: Get authentic forum mentions

Make a real account on forums like Reddit. Use your real name and company. Give genuinely helpful answers in relevant threads.

Answer long-tail questions others ignore. These feed directly into LLM responses.

But don't spam. Communities spot fake accounts instantly.

Step 4: Publish YouTube videos

Target specific problems your customers face. LLMs love video citations for complex topics.

Focus on topics where written content falls short.

Step 5: Build strategic affiliate partnerships

Partner with creators who naturally mention your solutions. Authentic recommendations carry more weight than ads.

Step 6: Maximise quality citations everywhere

Get mentioned in blog posts, forums, podcasts. More citations equal more LLM visibility.

Quality beats quantity. One mention in a trusted source outperforms ten low-quality ones.

Step 7: Track your brand mentions religiously

Use a tool like Mentions to monitor when and how your brand (and each competitor) appears.

The AI revolution isn't killing SEO. It's creating new opportunities for companies willing to adapt.

The biggest opportunity?

Even early-stage companies can win immediately.

You don't need domain authority like Google. You just need to get cited and you’ll start showing up.

We literally live and breathe this SEO framework.

5 years ago, we watched a SaaS company burn through 6 months of content budget. 60 blog posts on topics like "what is email marketing" and "benefits of newsletters."

Their traffic skyrocketed, but their revenue flatlined.

Their entire content game was backwards.

So that's when we built our "SEO Content Pyramid" to flip it completely and start at the top.

Here's how it works:

1. Convert (Top of Pyramid)

High-intent content for people ready to buy.

A. Competitor Comparisons
↳ "beehiiv vs Kit"
↳ "Kit alternatives"

B. Product Reviews
↳ "beehiiv reviews" (brand)
↳ "Kit review" (competitor)

C. Buyer Guides
↳ "Best newsletter platforms in 2025"
↳ "Best newsletter tools for beginners"

D. Product Pages
↳ "Email newsletter software"
↳ "Newsletter platform pricing"

2. Discover (Middle of Pyramid)

Solution content for people exploring options.

A. Solve Pain Points
↳ "How to start a newsletter"
↳ "Newsletter best practices"

B. Case Studies
↳ "Email marketing case studies"
↳ "How [Brand] grew to 100k subscribers"

C. Data Studies
↳ "Open rate benchmarks 2025"
↳ "Email marketing statistics"

D. Templates and Tools
↳ "Newsletter templates"
↳ "Email subject line generator"

3. Awareness (Bottom of Pyramid)

Educational content for people learning and exploring.

A. Definitions
↳ "What is open rate"
↳ "Email deliverability explained"

B. Educational Guides
↳ "How to increase email open rate"
↳ "How to write engaging emails"

C. Industry Trends and News
↳ "Gmail manage subscriptions feature"
↳ "Email marketing trends 2025"

D. Ideas
↳ "Newsletter content ideas"
↳ "Email campaign ideas for holidays"

Start at the top with Convert content. Only move to Discover once you've covered every competitor comparison, product review, and buyer guide. Then tackle Awareness last.

This framework will 10x your SEO results.

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