Helping brands get rankings and revenue from Google, LLMs, AI Overviews | CEO of Contact.so | Mentions.so | Kleo.so

There’s a rumour that we’re the world’s most controversial SEO Agency. But I’d just describe us as innovators. 

We stay on the cutting edge of SEO to help clients get traffic from Google and LLMs that turns into revenue. That doesn't go over well with the dinosaurs who are stuck in the past and too lazy to adapt. 

Our product is simple: work with us and we will make you more money than what you spend with us. 

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Rob Hoffman

SEO?
“Just add some keywords”
”Get green lights on Yoast”
”Let’s write a blog and rank #1?”
”Can’t we just buy some backlinks?”

But SEO now is a totally different beast.

Here’s what it actually involves:

- Total Addressable Search Market
- Google Search Console
- “Don’t change URLs”
- Quick win keywords
- Customer research
- Programmatic SEO
- Entity optimization
- LLM optimization
- Keyword Insights
- Topical authority
- Site architecture
- Schema markup
- Core Web Vitals
- Monthly reports
- Log file analysis
- Google updates
- Brand mentions
- Screaming Frog
- Technical audit
- Content decay
- Internal linking
- XML Sitemaps
- Topic clusters
- “llms.txt file?”
- Search intent
- Link building
- “It depends”
- Crawlability
- Canonicals
- Robots.txt
- Digital PR
- Mentions
- Semrush
- E-E-A-T

Just adding keywords or getting green lights on Yoast doesn't get SEO results in 2025.

True SEO and holistic marketing does.

Here’s a crazy stat for you:

AI gets 40% of its answers from Reddit.

Even crazier, in some cases (like Google’s AI Overviews), Quora actually beats Reddit.

(Data found in recent Semrush studies)

This clearly shows that LLMs value authentic, conversational, community-generated content.

So if you’re wondering:

“Why doesn’t AI mention my brand as the best {thing}?”

It’s probably because nobody is saying that in the places LLMs get answers from, especially Reddit.

You should fix that.

1. Build presence in relevant subreddits
2. Contribute value (guides, answers, AMAs)
3. Encourage customers to share experiences

Build your brand on Reddit, not just LinkedIn.

I know I am.

Companies: "Content is king"

But then:

- 1 marketer overseeing all channels
- Interns running their social platforms
- $10K/mo is too expensive for content
- Despite spending 6-figures on paid ads

Drop the performance marketing mindset where content needs to have a clear and instant ROI.

By properly investing in content, you'll attract an audience that will eventually buy from you.

Or you can carry on:

- Not building your brand
- Not growing your audience
- Not increasing inbound leads
- Not getting ahead of competitors

Most companies regret not properly investing resources into content sooner.

Don't let that be you.

How I rank businesses inside LLMs:

AI platforms handle millions of daily queries, Google now shows AI summaries on 1 in 5 searches, Google is making AI Mode the default.

This isn't just another SEO hype.

But successful AI SEO follows 7 key steps that most people completely miss.

Here’s my AI SEO playbook:

Step 1: Map your customer questions

Write down every question from your sales calls. Those same questions are being asked in ChatGPT right now.

But don't stop there. Map the follow-up questions too. LLMs love comprehensive answers.

Step 2: Create answer-focused pages

Build pages that directly answer those questions. Skip the fluff and get straight to solutions.

Step 3: Get authentic forum mentions

Make a real account on forums like Reddit. Use your real name and company. Give genuinely helpful answers in relevant threads.

Answer long-tail questions others ignore. These feed directly into LLM responses.

But don't spam. Communities spot fake accounts instantly.

Step 4: Publish YouTube videos

Target specific problems your customers face. LLMs love video citations for complex topics.

Focus on topics where written content falls short.

Step 5: Build strategic affiliate partnerships

Partner with creators who naturally mention your solutions. Authentic recommendations carry more weight than ads.

Step 6: Maximise quality citations everywhere

Get mentioned in blog posts, forums, podcasts. More citations equal more LLM visibility.

Quality beats quantity. One mention in a trusted source outperforms ten low-quality ones.

Step 7: Track your brand mentions religiously

Use a tool like Mentions to monitor when and how your brand (and each competitor) appears.

The AI revolution isn't killing SEO. It's creating new opportunities for companies willing to adapt.

The biggest opportunity?

Even early-stage companies can win immediately.

You don't need domain authority like Google. You just need to get cited and you’ll start showing up.

We literally live and breathe this SEO framework.

5 years ago, we watched a SaaS company burn through 6 months of content budget. 60 blog posts on topics like "what is email marketing" and "benefits of newsletters."

Their traffic skyrocketed, but their revenue flatlined.

Their entire content game was backwards.

So that's when we built our "SEO Content Pyramid" to flip it completely and start at the top.

Here's how it works:

1. Convert (Top of Pyramid)

High-intent content for people ready to buy.

A. Competitor Comparisons
↳ "beehiiv vs Kit"
↳ "Kit alternatives"

B. Product Reviews
↳ "beehiiv reviews" (brand)
↳ "Kit review" (competitor)

C. Buyer Guides
↳ "Best newsletter platforms in 2025"
↳ "Best newsletter tools for beginners"

D. Product Pages
↳ "Email newsletter software"
↳ "Newsletter platform pricing"

2. Discover (Middle of Pyramid)

Solution content for people exploring options.

A. Solve Pain Points
↳ "How to start a newsletter"
↳ "Newsletter best practices"

B. Case Studies
↳ "Email marketing case studies"
↳ "How [Brand] grew to 100k subscribers"

C. Data Studies
↳ "Open rate benchmarks 2025"
↳ "Email marketing statistics"

D. Templates and Tools
↳ "Newsletter templates"
↳ "Email subject line generator"

3. Awareness (Bottom of Pyramid)

Educational content for people learning and exploring.

A. Definitions
↳ "What is open rate"
↳ "Email deliverability explained"

B. Educational Guides
↳ "How to increase email open rate"
↳ "How to write engaging emails"

C. Industry Trends and News
↳ "Gmail manage subscriptions feature"
↳ "Email marketing trends 2025"

D. Ideas
↳ "Newsletter content ideas"
↳ "Email campaign ideas for holidays"

Start at the top with Convert content. Only move to Discover once you've covered every competitor comparison, product review, and buyer guide. Then tackle Awareness last.

This framework will 10x your SEO results.

SEO is evolving.

Traditional SEO is “get clicks”
LLM SEO is “get cited”

If AI doesn’t know you, the searcher won’t either.

10 examples you need to know:

Traditional SEO vs LLM SEO

If you're an SEO who's ever wanted to work with us, now's your chance.

We’re looking for exceptional SEO strategists who are excited about the future of search.

This isn't just another SEO role.

You'll be working on "new SEO" strategies for some of the most impressive companies out there.

You'll be getting companies visible in a search world that's changing faster than anyone's figured out.

You'll be experimenting with tactics most SEO teams won't touch for another 2 years.

If you're the kind of person who gets genuinely excited about this stuff, we want to hear from you.

Reply below if that's you (or someone you know).

And fill in this quick form: https://lnkd.in/eBgSGK2V

We'll DM the 10 most impressive SEOs this week.

23 content ideas we use to create 100s of new pages for our SEO campaigns, whether it's for a:

- New SaaS start-up
- Small local business
- 9-figure unicorn company
- Mid-sized e-commerce website

Some focus more on driving traffic:

- Lists
- FAQs
- Steps
- Interviews
- Checklists
- Definitions
- Pillar Pages
- Infographics
- Press Releases
- Ultimate Guides
- Trending Content
- Beginner's Guides
- Tips/Best Practices

Others focus more on driving conversions:

- How-To Guides
- Landing Pages
- Product Pages
- Best-Of Posts
- Comparisons
- Case Studies
- Alternatives
- Templates
- Free Tools
- Reviews

But truth is, they're all crucial for:

1. Establishing your authority
2. Building your SEO moat for defensibility
3. Meeting your users at each stage of the funnel

So, I've ranked each content type in the chart below.

- From Traffic-Focused to Conversion-Focused
- From Difficult to Easy to publish from start-finish

Use it to prioritize your website's content plan:

(And stop shooting in the dark)

I just went on Greg Isenberg's podcast and broke down 6 proven playbooks that took bootstrapped SaaS from $0 to $300K MRR.

Real examples.
Real numbers.
Real tactics you can copy.

Here's how to get customers for your SaaS in 2026:

(PS. Watch the podcast here: https://lnkd.in/e-CjhaAz)

The companies we're reverse engineering:

- Kleo: $61K MRR
- TrustMRR: $24K MRR (in 30 days)
- Teachizy: $65K MRR
- Tally: $338K MRR
- LocalRank: $47K MRR
- Mailscale: $100K+ MRR

Playbook 1: The Waitlist Strategy

We used this for Kleo. Hit $61K MRR in 53 days.

The framework: Content → Email → Webinar

Create "edusales" content that subtly teases your product. Don't hard sell. Lead with value. Plug your tool in ONE bullet point.

Launch beta to your waitlist with early-bird lifetime discount.

We offered the first 500 users lifetime access for $59 (normally $99).

This creates scarcity and FOMO.

Hit $61K MRR before even launching publicly.

Stack your calendar with customer calls. Use first 500 users to iterate. Then relaunch to second cohort at a higher price.

Playbook 2: The Wave Surfer Strategy

TrustMR by Marc Lou: $24K MRR in 30 days.

Pieter Levels tweeted, complaining about fake MRR screenshots on X.

Marc shipped TrustMRR within 48 hours.

He didn't use his own audience. He piggybacked on Pieter’s virality.

Ship fast. Quit fast if it doesn't work.

Build virality into the product. TrustMRR is inherently shareable.

When you get massive attention but low intent, sell ads instead of subscriptions.

Playbook 3: Language Arbitrage Strategy

Teachizy: $65K MRR

They took Kajabi/Teachable and made it 100% French.

That's it. Same product. Different language.

SEO in other languages = marketing on easy mode. High volume. Low competition. It's what SEO in English looked like in the early 2000s.

Playbook 4: AI Search Strategy

Tally: $338K MRR

They became the #1 recommended form builder in ChatGPT.

Result: 2,000+ new users from AI search in 2025 alone.

Created comprehensive alternatives pages and "best of" articles. When people search "Typeform alternative" in ChatGPT, Tally shows up first.

Traffic from ChatGPT converts 4-5x better than Google. In some cases, 17x better.

Why? People trust ChatGPT like a friend.

Plus ChatGPT gives 2-3 recommendations vs 1,000 blue links.

The next 6 months are the biggest window to take advantage of this.

Playbook 5: Signal Search Strategy

LocalRank: $47K MRR. Made $5K MRR on day one.

They shipped ONE feature (a heat map) to test market response.

This let them validate demand before investing months into a full platform.

They launched it on YouTube and X (YouTube drove 80% of signups)

Oops, I've run out of characters.

Check out Playbook 6: High Ticket Ad Strategy (Mailscale: $100K MRR) in the comments 👇

I spent 8 hours researching these SaaS strategies so you don't have to...

Which playbook do you like best?

Google: Handles 90% of all searches, 16.4B queries per day, owns YouTube, has 14% stake in Anthropic, powers Claude with TPU chips, owns Gemini, tracks the world via Maps, builds self-driving cars at Waymo, owns Android, powers 3B devices, sends 831x more visitors to sites than all LLMs combined.

ChatGPT: New browser basically powered by Google.

Google is the internet.

If you're a software engineer who's ever wanted to work with me, Jake, Lara and the Kleo team, now's your chance:

Co-founder building Kleo.so and Mentions.so

I'm hiring for a Full Stack Developer at Kleo!

First thing you need to know: we're scaling fast.

If you have:

3+ years full stack experience (ideally TypeScript)
⁠2+ years cloud computing (ideally Vercel)
⁠2+ years relational database experience
⁠2+ years building async workers

You might be our next best team addition.

We need someone who has:

- Experience creating AI based tools (ideally chat bots)
- ⁠Experience using AI Code editors (e.g. Claude Code)
- Built Chrome Extensions (optional)
- Design first attitude when architecting solutions
- Follows latest AI trends and loves AI in general

What you’ll be doing:

Taking ownership of design and feature implementation, and responding to Technical Support Tickets for bug fixes.

Why join us:

You'll be part of joining the fastest-growing content creation tool on the market. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to join us before we scale further.

You'll also be able to move into senior and management roles in the near future as we grow.

And you'll be working 100% remotely.

If this sounds like you (or anyone you know) please fill in this form here:
https://lnkd.in/erncQE2m

Looking forward to meeting some of you soon!

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Social Profit Media

In the past 3 years, we generated over $60M in clients sales and become the leading Instagram Marketing Agency in the Online Education / Info-product industry.

We partner with coaches, consultants, and info-product companies & help them scale past $1M/mo by building & monetizing their personal brand. Find out how: bit.ly/FEGrowthPartnerGrowthPlan

CASE STUDIES
➤ Jeremy Miner: 0 - 555k followers in 2 years (generating $500k+ at a 50x ROAS)
➤ KT Hustles: 50 - 200k followers in 6 months (generating $300k+/mo at a 45x ROAS)
➤ ATM Togerher: 0 - 333k followers in 13 minths (generating $1M/mo at a 70x ROAS)

HOW?
➤ Firstly, we increase revenue by turning your story, beliefs, values & domain expertise into content that resonates and emotionally appeals to your target audience, helping you attract, nurture and convert people from total stranger to paying customer. 
➤ Secondly, we leverage our exclusive network of 40M+ followers to give you exposure to the right people and help you rapidly grow your audience on Instagram. 
➤ Thirdly, we use our proven content & marketing playbook to nurture & convert those new followers into interested & warm leads.
➤ Lastly, we help you optimize your DM Setting & pre-call sales process to maximize the ROI from our marketing!

We help founders scale their info-business by growing their influence & reach through their personal brand on Instagram. In the past 3 years we've generated north of $60M in client sales at an average ROAS (Return on Ad Spend) of 34x.

IF WE WORK TOGETHER, YOU'LL GAIN:
➤ The capability to rapidly scale with systems.
➤ An increase in sales and revenue in 2-3 months. 
➤ A battle-tested scaling plan that accumulates more sales at an extremely profitable rate. 
➤ The ability to stop wasting money on marketing channels & "content initiatives" that don't work.

Founder & CEO

Santa Clara University

I work as a Graduate Assistant where I help and actively organize, structure, and lead practices & fitness sessions. Additionally, I am responsible to look after the student athletes & coach them during competition, as well as during Practices.

Graduate Assistant Santa Clara Men's Tennis

Aare Riverview

If you are looking for high-quality meeting rooms, which not only offer a productive work place, but also provides a calm and relaxing environment, allowing you to escape the stressful everyday life. With our unique location, situated right next to the old "Aare" river, creates a perfect environment for a single business owner, a company executive board, a customer or client meeting, or any form of team-brainstorming or team-retreat.

Consultant

LevelUpSocial Consulting

LevelUp Social Consulting is a Marketing Agency built to help small business owner use Social Media Platforms & Marketing Opportunities to grow an Audience, establish their Brand online, and generate new leads, sales, customers to either automate or take their business to the next level.

found

Fresno State Athletics

- Team Captain for 2 years leading our team during my junior & senior year.
- Helped the team win it's first Mountain West Championship in Program History
- Learned valuable lessons around Team-Culture and Communication

Student Athlete

In a nutshell, I help businesses create new and recurring sales using Social Media Marketing & Lead Generation.
If you are tired of not seeing any results from current social media efforts, or you simply want to boost your sales, then you’re definitely on the right platform. The question is, how can you stand out to prospects on social media? And more importantly, how can you not only use Instagram, Facebook etc. to increase your brand awareness, but also drive more sales, consistently generate leads & create a lasting relationship with your followers & customers.
  
If you’re a business owner, I doubt you have time to sit and sift through the process of learning social media marketing and test strategies, placing ads and studying ad-analytics, just to occasionally drive a few sales. 

The great news is, my team & I will not only handle the frontend where we put your brand in front of thousands of people, we also turn them into highly qualified leads & ascend them down the sales funnel. By working with LevelUpSocial you can expect to consistently get new customers through the door and turn your existing customers into repetitive clients.

We specialise in:

✓ Chatbot Development & Marketing
✓ Facebook Ads & E-Mail Marketing
✓ Instagram Lead Generation
✓ Social Media Marketing 

So If you want us to either handle your entire social media for you we can do that, and if you want us to teach you and your team how use messenger chatbots to skyrocket your sales through social media we can also do that. 

Jeremy Moser

A client came to us doing $100k/month.

6 months later: $680k/month.

Here are the only 3 things we changed:


1. We stopped them from posting

They were doing 3 reels a day on random topics, chasing viral trends.

We cut it to 6 posts per week.

Every single one was built to attract one person:

A 32-year-old corporate employee with $50k saved who wants a business.

Revenue went way up.


2. We fired their DM process and rebuilt it from scratch

Their "setter" was just asking "are you interested?" and sending a Calendly link.

We implemented:

• Hard qualification in message 2-3 (budget, timeline, commitment level)
• Asset sends based on hesitation type
• Post-booking confirmation sequence

Booking rate (of qualified leads) doubled.


3. We stacked the pre-call experience

Before: They'd book a call and get a Zoom link.
After: They'd book and immediately get:

• A 10-minute "why I started this" story video
• A case study PDF of someone like them
• A webinar replay walking through the model

By the time they got on the call, they were asking "how fast can I start?"

Massive lift on show and close rate.


In summary:

Target the right people (buyers), remove the friction, and build trust before the call.

It’s not rocket science.

Co-Founder Social Profit Media - $100M+ in sales via Instagram Content

Business is hard, and I do understand why I see so many entrepreneurs throwing Hail Marys when things are underwater.

But it rarely works. And if it does, you’re only up for air for a few more days.

Instead of trying to “just crack a viral post” to hopefully book some calls, take the knee and actually build out a predictable content acquisition system.

1) Spend a few weeks getting a competent DM setter implemented

2) Set up a weekly content schedule designed to attract, nurture, and convert strangers

And say goodbye to spamming your timeline with “viral” copy-paste content.

It’s crazy how many idiots I come across that think “if I just got one video to pop off, I’d finally be able to scale this business!”

Going viral won’t save you.

10,000 views from qualified buyers > 1,000,000 views from broke teenagers.

Sometimes “less” (quantity in views) is “more” (number of potential buyers)

One piece of tactical content that speaks to your exact ICP will outperform 50 motivational posts.

Algorithm hacks don't exist. It’s a game of chance

Good content is just content your audience actually wants to watch.

Make that, and the algorithm will reward you.

If you hire VAs to run your content, you deserve to stay poor.

VAs are great for:

• Scheduling
• Admin work
• Basic editing

But the moment you hand off your content strategy, your messaging, your offers to someone who doesn't understand your ICP, your business, or your voice…

You're cooked.

I've seen people hire Filipino VAs to "scale their content system" and wonder why their engagement tanks, their DMs dry up, and their offers stop converting.

It's because a VA can't think like you.

They can't sell like you.

And they sure as hell can't build a brand like you.

You don’t hire a highschool gym teacher to train you to become a bodybuilder.

If you want to scale content, hire a strategist.

Hire a copywriter who understands direct response.

Hire someone who's actually built a brand before.

But if you're outsourcing to the cheapest option just to "post more," you’ll get the same result as everyone else ($0)

Unpopular opinion:

Selling makes your content perform better.

When you're not selling anything, people don't care.

When they know you have something to sell to them, they pay attention to see if what you sell/do could be interesting for them.

I've seen this play out dozens of times.

A creator posts "value" for 6 months with no offer. 

Engagement is mid. DMs are quiet. Nobody's watching the full video.

Then they launch an offer.

Suddenly, watch time goes up, comments increase, DMs start to flood in.

Why?

Because now there are stakes.

People want to know: 

• Is this person legit? 
• Can they actually help me? 
• Should I give them my money?

Content without an offer is just entertainment.

Content with an offer is a filter. It attracts buyers and repels tire-kickers.

If you're scared to sell, your content will reflect that. And your audience will treat you like a motivational speaker, not someone who can actually solve their problems.

Here’s why your offer won’t scale past $100k/month:

I found a guy who walks around asking strangers how they make their money.

Their answers were not what I was expecting…

But do you want to know why this IG page has over 700k followers?

These aren't influencers or gurus.

They're everyday people who figured it out.

Which means the audience thinks: "If they can do it, I can too."


Now here's the genius play:

Every few posts, they collab with creators who sell info products.

But because the page is known for interviewing real people, the collabs don't feel like ads.

The audience sees them the same way: credible, authentic, worth listening to.


When your audience associates your brand with real people solving real problems, selling becomes effortless.

We use this exact framework to generate 25k+ leads/month for clients.

If you want access to that framework to use for your own business, DM me.

You can no longer just post lifestyle vlogs & shill a $997 course on a webinar once a month.

You either build a proper sales & marketing infrastructure capable of scaling to $10M/yr...

Or forever get stuck at $100k/mo with decreasing margins.

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