Kevin Casey

Account Director and some other wild titles

14 (un)conventional principles to reduce sales anxiety & increase sales.→ (un)selling® → the book → the page has turned.

READ THIS FIRST: 

I don’t teach pressure, convincing, or chasing. 
If that’s what you want, I’m not your guy.
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You didn't leave your corporate job to spend Sunday nights rewriting follow-up emails.

You left for freedom. For flexibility. For dinner with your kids without replaying a blown sales call in your head.

But somewhere along the way, "running your own business" turned into a second job you never wanted:
Salesperson.

The chasing. The "just checking in" emails. The proposals that disappear into silence. The pit in your stomach before every money conversation.

You're not broken. You're just using a playbook that was never built for people like you.

Here's what I know:

→ I grew my first agency from a kitchen table to $5M+ using zero cold calls.
→Then I tripled the market value of an insurance brokerage by teaching the team how to sell like humans — not robots.

Now I help kitchen-table entrepreneurs who are great at what they do but exhausted by the chase.

No pressure tactics. No fake urgency. No pretending to be someone you're not.

Just a way to land clients that doesn't make you hate yourself.

I'm not your guy if:

You want boiler-room tactics
You're looking for "one call close" scripts
You think sales is about convincing people

I am your guy if:

You'd rather attract than chase
You want to sell without selling out
You're done replaying conversations at 2am wondering what you said wrong

Want a taste?

Join 3,000+ kitchen-table entrepreneurs getting my free "Sunday Espresso Shots" at www.kevincasey.ca/unselling

Or grab my best-selling book (un)selling — it's the playbook I wish I had 20 years ago.

Partner

Got my ass handed to me today. 

Feels great.

One of my favorite (un)selling students just lapped me.

Not figuratively. Like… actually lapped me. 

By a mile. Maybe a thousand miles.

Here’s the story:

Jeremy, in the shadows, helped me launch my book in 2023. 

Then rescued me from all the techie crap — building my email list, setting up systems, the stuff I’m useless at. 

The truth is I can’t even get my microwave to stop flashing 12:00.

In exchange, I taught him the sales stuff that took me 20 years to figure out.

He applied every bit of it with a consistency I’ve never had.

Now he’s clearing numbers most people only dream about.

And straight up:

I couldn’t be prouder.👏👏

This is the thing nobody tells you about teaching what you know:

The best students don’t just learn your lessons.

They take your 20 years and compress it into 2 years. 

Doing > IQ’ing. 

Then they leave you in the dust.

And if you’re doing it right, that doesn’t sting.

It’s the whole point.

Congrats Jeremy Bennett 
 
So damn happy for you and your family.

Kevin  Casey 

You built a business. Ended up with a second job you hate: Salesperson. You can sell without begging, chasing, or hating yourself after. | Best-Selling Author of (un)selling

The podcast just turned 2 years old! 🎉

And look what happened👇

Kevin Casey was my very first guest.
Thanks for taking that leap with me my friend.
You completely changed how I do business. Grateful 🙏🏻 

The show started off as a local show.
Then it grew to Atlantic Canada.
And then...global.

About a year later LInkedIn giant Jasmin Alić came on.
And since then, everything changed.
Grateful for you my friend.

Within the same time frame, I had titans like:

→ Richard van der Blom 
→ Lara Acosta 
→ Fatima Khan 
→ Charlie Hills 🦩 
→ Ruben Hassid 

And so many more.

Then it turned into a full-time career.
Five business titans every week.
And I feel blessed every day.

Then the partners came:

Link Up
↳ Simply the best community out there. 

AuthoredUp 
↳ I remember the first time I heard about AuthoredUp, it was during an interview where Chris Do was talking with Jasmin, and Jasmin spoke very highly of it and strongly recommended it. And now...partner :) 

Richard's van der Blom’s Just Connecting - Social Selling, Employee Advocacy and Marketing 
↳ So incredibly honoured! Wow!

Pinch me.

Two years.
400+ episodes.
Hundreds of conversations.

To everyone who supports this show:

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Without you, this show certainly wouldn't exist.

Forever thankful. ❤️

What's been your favorite episode?
Who would you like to see on the show?
Let me know in the comments. 🙏🏻 

P.S. Wait until you see who's coming up! 🤩

You love what you do. You hate selling. 

So you skip the sleazy stuff. Good. 

But there's a sneaky mistake you're probably still making and it's tanking your conversations before they start. 

I call it unconscious commission breath. 

65 seconds. 

I know that's an eternity if you're 19. You're not.

#unselling

Product pushers chase.

Problem solvers attract.

(Everyone nods. Very few do) 


#unselling

Prospect barks "sh*t, this is a ton of questions." 

You say...

#unselling

Tom Hanks wasn't born an actor. He became one.

Michael Jordan wasn't born a legend. He earned it.

Reps. Practice. Failure. More reps.

So why do we think selling is different? 

That you either "have it" or you don't?

55 seconds. Not a TikTok dance. Actual grown-up stuff.

#unselling

Big words don't make you look smart.

They make you look like you're hiding something.

Simple sells. Jargon repels.

I call it the "5 cent word" rule and it's one of the easiest fixes in selling with dignity. 

#unselling

P.S. This clip lifted from a conversation with Fred Copestake.
Brilliant sales brain. 
Terrible name for a superhero.

❌ "Be totally upfront. This is a sales call. Do you want to hang up now or give me 27 seconds and then decide?"

Pssst 🤫…

That stopped being a pattern interrupt about 47,000 YouTube videos ago.

My mom turned 90 last Sunday.

If you called her with this line, she'd pause, sigh, and in the sweetest voice imaginable say:

"Oh honey. Did reading that off your script make you feel powerful? Or did your soul leave your body a little?"

Then she'd hang up. Gently. Because she was raised right.

Yesterday's pattern interrupt is tomorrow's worn-out line. 

*Benjamin Dennehy can still pull it off. 
But let's be real here.
You're not Benjamin. 
I'm not Benjamin.  
 
#unselling

p.s. Two ways to see if I know what I'm talking about:
→ Free (skeptics): https://lnkd.in/ea3wZaep 
→ $17 (believers): https://geni.us/unselling

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The Weirdest Cold Calling Trainer 📞☎️📱 | Cold Calling CAN Be Fun! | ICF Coach | Stoic | 🍍 on 🍕 is a CRIME

Cold calling sucks - but it works well.

It's the fastest way to fix pipeline issues.

If you're struggling with it, get in touch:

UK: +44 7513 624 762

Alternatively, check out my website: www.underdogsales.com
If you're really an email person try info@underdogsales.com

Sales Trainer | Cold Calling Trainer

Giulio Segantini

𝗬𝗼𝘂 𝗱𝗼𝗻'𝘁 𝘀𝘂𝗰𝗸 𝗮𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴.

You just haven't mastered the crucial part:

Handling the ridiculous amount of rejection.

Your brain takes rejection worse than physical pain.

You can either succumb to it or fight back.

Only those who fight back win.

3 simple ways to fight it:

1. Stick to clear calling blocks
At least 60 minutes, 3 times per week.

2. Practice Opener and Pitch before
The warming up will get your brain ready.

3. Find a way to consistently have fun
Laughter is nature's strongest painkiller; use it.

Don't be like Batman, who gave up here.

𝗜𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂'𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗼𝗱𝗮𝘆, 𝗱𝗿𝗼𝗽 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗺𝗼𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀 👇

(𝗦𝗼𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗼𝗿 𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝘂𝗺𝗽 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘂𝗽)
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Follow and 🔔 for daily (weird) sales content:  Giulio Segantini

The Weirdest Sales Trainer ❄️📞 Making Cold Calling FUN | Pineapple on Pizza is a Crime | Fan of Stoicism

𝗜𝗳 𝗜 𝗵𝗮𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴..

It wouldn't be objection handling, but:

Asking the right questions.

"𝘑𝘶𝘥𝘨𝘦 𝘢 𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘣𝘺 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯 𝘣𝘺 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘴."
- Voltaire

Statements are about you.

Questions are about the prospect.

Some of my favourites:

• What do you mean by that?
An easy way to get the prospect to talk more.

• Can you give me an example?
Another way to get talking more about problems.

• What's your favourite pizza topping?
There's no better way to become forever memorable.

𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁'𝘀 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗙𝗔𝗩𝗘 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗾𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻?

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Follow and 🔔 for daily (weird) sales content:  Giulio Segantini

𝗦𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝘆𝘀: "𝗜'𝘃𝗲 𝗴𝗼𝘁 𝗮 𝗯𝗼𝘆𝗳𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗱."
 
It's like "I have a supplier", it's not over.

ACE Framework, watch:

𝗔: Accept.
"𝘐'𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵"

𝗖: Consent.
"𝘊𝘢𝘯 𝘐 𝘢𝘴𝘬 𝘢 𝘥𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵?"

𝗘: Explore.
"𝘈𝘳𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 100% 𝘴𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘴𝘧𝘪𝘦𝘥 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘴 𝘺𝘰𝘶?"

"𝘐𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘥𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘦𝘳, 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘣𝘦?"

Sales is life, especially dating.

𝗗𝗿𝗼𝗽 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 '𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝘂𝘁𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀' 𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆.

𝗣𝗦: looking forward to the drama in the comments.

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Follow and 🔔 for daily (weird) sales content:  Giulio Segantini

𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝘄𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹?

It definitely doesn't help your:
1. Peace
2. Sleep
3. Therapy bill
4. Liver health

But it does make you:
1. Richer
2. Disciplined
3. Mentally tough
4. Resistant to rejection

In my first job I was cold calling on day one.

I didn't love it, but my manager made me do it.

12 years later, I built a massive business and brand.

𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝗱𝗼 𝗬𝗢𝗨 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹?

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Follow and 🔔 for daily (weird) sales content:  Giulio Segantini

𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁𝘀 𝗼𝗿 𝗱𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿.

Most salespeople get it wrong:

1. "Is this John?"
Tells them right away you don't know them.

2. "My name is ... from ..."
Unless you're Elon Musk from Tesla, no one cares.

3. "How are you doing today?"
Unless you sound REALLY genuine, it's a waste of time.

Instead, go directly to the point:

"𝘎𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨, 𝘑𝘰𝘩𝘯, 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯'𝘵 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭, 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘵'𝘴 𝘢 𝘸𝘦𝘭𝘭-𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯𝘦"

It works because:
1. Straight to the point
2. Seeks permission
3. Trigger curiosity

Batman may not like it, but it works.

𝗔𝗻𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿?

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Follow and 🔔 for daily (weird) sales content:  Giulio Segantini

𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗰𝗵 𝗶𝘀 💩

This is what it sounds like 69%+ of the time:

"𝘞𝘦'𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯 𝘪𝘯𝘯𝘰𝘷𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘴"

The problem? 
Everyone says the same BS.
You'll sound more boring than white rice.

Instead, you should always lead with their problems:

"𝘞𝘦 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘬 𝘵𝘰 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 {𝘫𝘰𝘣 𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘭𝘦}, 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘣𝘶𝘵:
1. 𝘚𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘧𝘢𝘤𝘦 {𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘣𝘭𝘦𝘮 1}
2. 𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘭𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘭𝘺 {𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘣𝘭𝘦𝘮 2}
𝘞𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘴 𝘵𝘰 {𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦}.

𝘈𝘳𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘺 𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘴, 𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘷𝘢𝘯𝘵?"

Now you speak their language. 
You're not a salesperson - you're someone who *gets it*.  

Still pitching like Jordan Belfort? 
That's why you hear the beep sounds...

𝗜𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗱𝗿𝗼𝗽 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗰𝗵 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄, 𝗜'𝗹𝗹 𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘂𝗽𝗴𝗿𝗮𝗱𝗲 𝗶𝘁 👇🏻

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Follow and 🔔 for daily (weird) sales content:  Giulio Segantini

The Weirdest B2B Sales Trainer ❄️📞 Making Cold Calling FUN | Pineapple on Pizza is a Crime | Fan of Stoicism

𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲'𝘀 𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝗽𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗺𝗶𝗰 𝘀𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗺𝘀...

Over half of them are trapped in:

A job with awful conditions.

The typical stories:
1. Ego-maniac leadership
2. Absolutely no training or coaching 
3. Calling leads older than my grandma
4. Commissions that couldn't feed a chihuahua

Sales is hard: at least do it for the bloody right company!

And yet so many salespeople are scared of change.

Therefore, they stay in awful jobs and complain.

The hard truth? They deserve it.

Sales is about being proactive.

Not sitting on your ass.

Waiting for miracles.

Do you want a better job?

• Cold call hiring managers
• Send them DMs on LinkedIn 
• Network actively with your peers
• Apply your sales skills to job hunting

If you don't, you probably deserve where you are.

That being said, if you're really struggling...

You can speak to my dear friend Anca.

She's a recruiter and career coach for salespeople.

A picture of us in Milan today as proof I have real friends.

𝗗𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗸 𝘆𝗼𝘂'𝗿𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗮 𝗴𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 𝗷𝗼𝗯 𝗮𝗹𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆?

𝟲𝟵𝗞 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗼𝗱𝗮𝘆, 𝗮𝘀 𝗶𝘁 𝗶𝘀 "𝗕𝗹𝘂𝗲 𝗠𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗮𝘆".

I'm calling it International Cold Calling Day instead.  

Why on the most depressing day of the year??

Not because cold calling is depressing (although it is).
Because real cold callers don't care about the mood.
We will do what needs to be done.

I kept track of my last 200 days:
• Days I genuinely felt like calling: 11
• Days I got it done anyway: 189
• Days I regretted doing it: 0

Success in cold calling is about discipline.

It's about saying: F*ck the mood, follow the plan.

And,  Blue Monday has three advantages:
• Competition: Over 40% of sellers skip Mondays
• Pickup Rates: Less competition = more conversation 
• Energy: You will out when everyone else is depressed

Therefore, today:
1. Park your excuses
2. Draw up your call list
3. Speak to at least 5 prospects (better if 10 ;)

Prove that the most depressing day won't stop you.

Then you can congratulate yourself.

𝗗𝗿𝗼𝗽 𝗮 📞 𝗶𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂'𝗿𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘀 𝘁𝗼𝗱𝗮𝘆.  

𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗪𝗢𝗥𝗦𝗧 𝗼𝗯𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗳𝗮𝗰𝗲𝗱, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗜'𝗹𝗹 𝗿𝗲𝗽𝗹𝘆 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗜'𝗱 𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗹𝗲 𝗶𝘁.

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𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿.

And it's not objection handling either, but:

Your Sales Pitch.
Poor reps pitch features.
Decent reps pitch benefits.
Great reps pitch on problems
.Excellent reps pitch on very specific problems.

Below is a step-by-step guide on crafting a great pitch.

A great pitch will turn 30%+ of your calls into conversations
.Once you have a great pitch, all you need is a great list.

However, I'll let FullEnrich take care of that.

.𝗗𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗮𝗴𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗰𝗵 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁?

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